![[20240816-5.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240816-6.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240816-7.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240816-8.png]] Notes: Stollberg 34 mi Stollberg: Tan 0.3 degrees x 451 mi = 2.36 (2.4mi) Kleve Tan .0.4 x 334 mi = 1.75mi Theoretical beam divergence 420 mi's after you start diffracting @ 32 miles out, you'll end up with like 12 to 16 miles of diffriaction --- ![[20240816-9.png]] Notes: Kleve Max benefit ~25,000ft (actually 19.7k ft) --- ![[20240817-1.png]] ![[20240818-2.png]] Notes: Hinsley, Francis Harry. _British Intelligence in the Second World War_. Vol. 3. Cambridge Universit y Press, 1979. --- ![[20240819-25.png]] Notes: <font color="#ff0000">INAPPLICABLE</font> Why withdraw? Because they're not dealing with BOUNCING. --- ![[20240817-2.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240817-3.png]] Notes: - Didn't believe it actually would Eckersley, TL. “Multiple Signals in Short-Wave Transmission.” _Proceedings of the Institute of Radio Engineers_ 18, no. 1 (1930): 106–22. https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_audits --- https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_Audits 17:51 - Radar and Beeping - Equi-signal 20:42 - Equi-signal --- ![[20240818-3.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240818-1.png]] --- ![[20240818-4.png]] --- ![[20240818-5.png]] ![[20240818-6.png]] --- ![[20240818-7.png]] --- ![[20240818-8.png]] Notes: How to use: Dial in coordinates from the the graticule Tech specs: - Kn-2 Bredstedt (Stollberg Hill) Built 1939, operational 1940 - Kn-4 (Kleve) Placeholder - K-12 (Maulburg/Lörrach) Placeholder 29 m tall (≈95 ft) and 99 m wide (≈325 ft) rotated on a track with a diameter of 93 m (≈305 ft) Smaller antenna units that were part of the same Knickebein system were half as tall and wide Circular track enabled the radar system to be turned to the direction of the target so that a plane could fly in the equi-signal of the beam to targets (where a second beam would intersect) Signal: 30-33.3 MHz --- ![[20240818-9.png]] Notes: 30-33.3 MHz - They would adjust the radar system to find the plane and bring them in - The plane does not fly around looking for where the beam might be - NOT an omnidirectional dispersion --- 35d tilt angle = 450mi before it even hits the ground again Diagrams --- ![[20240818-10.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240818-12.png]] Notes: - Beam != Omnidirectional => Beam --- ![[20240818-13.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240818-14.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240818-15.png]] Notes: No sky waves for you lads --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_beam Notes: Fixed course only. No skipping here boys. --- https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-modes-other-hell-brnhrdne.htm#top-of-page Mechanical printer that worked off fixed timing intervals Accurate within 250m --- ![[20240818-16.png]] Notes: --- ![[20240818-17.png]] Notes: --- ![[hell-bernhard-bot-array-rot.mp4]] Notes: Plane flies between the pink tips --- Refraction: Two different refraction to be happening at just the right amount Always the same and never different --- @Young_Piezo Notes: > Technology utilizing triangulation of two VHF beams during World War II to bomb England from Germany. > > First beam from Stollberg Hill to Derby. > Second beam from Kleve to Derby. > > The flat earth argument is as follows: > > HF waves operate in the 3-30 MHz band. This band includes "skywaves" which can bounce off of the ionosphere. VHF operates within the 30-300 MHZ band. UHF operates in the 300-3000 MHz band. VHF and UHF penetrate the ionosphere. They are used in line-of-sight applications because of this. > > According to historical record, the Knickebein system used line-of-sight propagation to target planes hundreds of kilometers away. Based on the math, with standard refraction included and accounted for, this should have been impossible on a globe. In fact, this is the very reason the British intelligence informed British scientists about their suspicion of the towers' existence and use, and the scientists rejected the possibility. > > Continuing... the Knickebein system was used to perform precision strikes on targeted factories at night, with accuracies wi---thin 100 yards. The intercepted beams, after being discovered over and near Kleve, measured widths of 400-500 yards. > > Insert standard explanation: the early towers operated between 31-33MHz frequency, which is BARELY above HF and in the low end of VHF. Under perfect conditions, these can still sometimes be reflected off the ionosphere. Therefore, this must have been what was at work in order for the planes flying at 19,000-25,000 feet of altitude to intercept the signal beams once they were over Kleve. (edited) > Problem with this explanation: ionospheric skywave propagation, also known as "bouncing" or "skipping," does not occur in straight lines and perfect angles. Instead, it will end up reflecting the received wave off at some level of cant or angle which will vary based on atmospheric conditions and other variables. This change in angle, regardless of how large or small, would have caused a shift in the point at which the two beams being used would have intersected, meaning it would have altered the point at which the planes would have dropped the bombs. An angle change of only 1 degree from the beams shot from either Stollberg Hill or Kleve would have shifted the beams by kilometers. > > Another problem with the idea that the Knickebein towers shot skywaves is the fact that when people actually do shoot skywaves, they aim the projecting equipment directly towards the sky. The Knickebein system shot the beams directly towards the target, as the planes actively flew inside the beams while flying from Germany to Derby. The only reason they would have eventually ended up hitting the ionosphere would be because of the natural trail-off towards the sky as the earth curved away from the beams underneath. But, looking at the pictures, you can look at the variable labeled "Drop" and see the altitude the beams would have been at when they reached Derby (or "Hidden" to see the altitude after accounting for refraction). When we look at these altitudes, we see the higher of the two as being about 100,000 feet, which is FAR short of the ionosphere, but still FAR above the altitude the planes flew at, which means they would not have received the signals. > > In conclusion, by the times the beams reached Derby, on a globe they would have been far too high above the planes to be received but far too low below the ionosphere in order to experience any sort of "skip" or "bounce," and even if someone just brute-force-logic assumed that a skywave or bounce DID happen, that would have caused an angle change which would have defeated the accuracy of the system that factually performed precision strikes on the Rolls Royce factory. Thus, the earth cannot be a globe approximately 3,959 miles in radius. Note: --- Two transceivers -> equi-siginal primary --- https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-bernhard-Be9.htm Overlap doesn't work Even @ 1km it wouldn't happen over 40k ft and 100k ft --- ![[20240830-1.png]] --- ![[20240830-2.png]] --- ![[20240903-9.png]]