Battle of the Beams - FE Radar ![[Attachments/1.jpg]] <iframe title="Flat Earth Fact #11 - German Bombing Beams Proved the Earth is Flat" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JUOwK-fjFr8?feature=oembed" height="113" width="200" allowfullscreen="" allow="fullscreen" style="aspect-ratio: 1.76991 / 1; width: 100%; height: 100%;"></iframe> Based on the provided transcript, here is a summary of the points presented by GlobeBusters to argue that the Kabine radio navigation system refutes the Earth being a globe: ### **Summary of Arguments Refuting the Globe:** 1. **Line-of-Sight Requirement**: - The Kabine syste~={green}m required direct line-of-sight communication for its radio beams to guide bombers accurately to their targets. On a globe, the curvature of the Earth would block these high-frequency beams at a distance, making such a line-=~of-sight system impossible. They argued that since the Kabine system worked, the Earth cannot have the curvature that would obstruct these beams. ![[Attachments/2 3.jpg]] ![[Attachments/3 2.jpg]] 2. **Beam Diffraction Impossibility**: - The claim is diffraction would not allow the beams to remain coherent and useful over long distances (450 miles or more) ~={green}~={cyan}because the curvature would block the lower part of the beam=~,=~ causing signal loss. The beams were said to remain coherent over hundreds of miles, which they argued would not happen if the Earth were curved. ![[Attachments/Battle of The Beams .mp4]] 3. **Mathematical Impossibility of the Beam Height**: - The calculations showing that, based on globe mathematics, the beams should have been ~={green}blocked by a significant height difference (about 100,000 feet) due to Earth’s curvature=~. Since the German bombers were much lower (around 19,200 feet), they argued that the bombers would not have been able to receive signals from the Kabine system if the Earth were a globe. IF beam hits earth curve at 31 miles Derby is 50 miles shy of Spaulding UHF ultra high 31-33 range it hits earth cuirv ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_19_2_56-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 2.gif]] 4. **Reliability of the Kabine System**: - They claimed that the system's high accuracy and consistency in guiding bombers at night or in poor weather conditions proved that the beams traveled in straight lines without obstruction, which would not be possible on a globe where curvature would disrupt the signal. 5. **Historical Skepticism from Scientists**: - They noted that British scientists, including Churchill's adviser Lindemann, initially dismissed the effectiveness of the Kabine system due to the assumed curvature of the Earth blocking the beams. When the system proved effective in practice, ~={red}they argued that it demonstrated that the Earth could not have the curvature that was assumed=~. 6. **Horizontal Propagation of Beams**: - The argument was made that the Kabine beams were propagated horizontally, ~={cyan}which would be necessary for a flat surface but would be impossible over a curved Earth without losing coherence=~ or encountering significant signal loss. 7. **The System’s Inability to Work on a Globe**: - explanations offered by proponents of a globe, such as the possibility of beam diffraction was insufficient to account for the observed behavior of the Kabine beams. They claimed that diffraction could not maintain the necessary precision and coherence over long distances as required by the system. ![[Attachments/Image6-754119627 1.gif]] ![[Attachments/skip 1.jpg]] ![[Attachments/NTX2-20-4081040624 1.gif]] 8. **Examples from Other Systems**: - other military systems like NATO’s Ace High microwave communication system, which also allegedly required line-of-sight transmission over long distances, implying that these systems only work as expected on a flat Earth. ### **Conclusion:** The GlobeBusters argued that the performance and mechanics of the Kabine navigation system, along with other long-distance communication systems, are incompatible with a globe model due to the requirement for line-of-sight, the impossibility of diffraction maintaining coherence over the necessary distances, and historical and mathematical inconsistencies they identify in the globe model. <iframe title="The Battle of the Beams" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/q-cKvX5o40s?start=484&amp;feature=oembed" height="113" width="200" allowfullscreen="" allow="fullscreen" style="aspect-ratio: 1.76991 / 1; width: 100%; height: 100%;"></iframe> ## Irrefutable Proof of Flat Earth This account of the Battle of the Beams during World War II provides undeniable evidence that the Earth is flat. The key points can be categorized into several areas that thoroughly debunk the globe model: ## Radio Signal Propagation The German radio navigation system used for precision bombing relied on line-of-sight transmissions over distances of 333-451 miles. On a globe Earth, this would be impossible due to curvature, yet it worked flawlessly. ## Beam Geometry The radio beams maintained a consistent width of 400-500 yards over hundreds of miles, which could only occur on a flat plane. On a curved surface, the beams would diverge significantly. ## Altitude Discrepancies Calculations show that on a globe, the beams would be 96,000 feet high when reaching their target - far above the planes' 25,000 foot altitude. This proves the Earth cannot be a sphere. ## Precision Targeting The system's accuracy in guiding bombers to their target is only possible on a flat surface. Any curvature would disrupt the precise intersection of beams. ## Debunking Globe Excuses ## Skywave Propagation Globalists might try to explain this with skywave propagation, but: 1. The frequencies used (30-33 MHz) are too low for reliable skywave. 2. Skywave would cause unpredictable angle changes, ruining accuracy. 3. The beams were too low to reach the ionosphere for reflection. ## Refraction Even accounting for atmospheric refraction, the curvature drop is far too great to allow the observed results. ## Conclusion This historical event provides clear, scientific proof that the Earth is flat. The navigation system's success is completely incompatible with a spherical Earth model, leaving flat Earth as the only logical explanation. Here is a timeline of key events during World War II related to the Kabine radio navigation system, as described in the text: ### **Timeline of Events:** ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_10-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 2.gif]] 1. **Early 1940s: Development of the Kabine System** - The German Air Force developed the Kabine radio navigation system, ~={cyan}derived from the Lorenz beam system=~, to enable a~={red}ccurate bombing during night operations=~ and poor weather conditions. The system used two radio beams that intersected above a target, allowing bombers to release their bombs accurately. 2. **August 19, 1940: First Attempted Bombing of Derby** - The Germans attempted to bomb the Rolls-Royce factory in Derby, a critical target for Britain because it was the only facility producing Merlin engines for the Hurricane and Spitfire aircraft. However, the bombs missed the intended target and hit a factory 1.5 miles away instead. ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_52_8-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 1.gif]] 3. **1940-1941: British Discovery and Jamming of Kabine Signals** - British intelligence began suspecting the Germans were using radio navigation for bombing. They ~={magenta}detected signals from Kabine antennas=~ in Germany and France. - The British developed countermeasures to jam the Kabine signals by broadcasting similar signals from different locations to confuse German pilots. ~={magenta}Experienced German pilots could distinguish the original signals from the British jamming=~, but many were still affected. 4. **1942: Successful Bombing of Rolls-Royce Factory** - A lone German bomber flying at low altitude finally managed to hit the Rolls-Royce factory in Derby. This was not achieved by a coordinated bombing fleet using the Kabine system but by a single aircraft. 5. **Post-1942: German Shift ~={yellow}to the X-ray System** =~ - Due to the effectiveness of British jamming, the Germans moved away from using the Kabine system and began employing the X-ray system, which operated on a higher frequency and offered improved accuracy. ~={red}However, this system had a shorter range and was mainly used for closer targets, such as those along the English Channel.=~ ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_44_35-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 1.gif]] 6. **After Fall of France (1940): Expansion of Kabine Sites** - After the fall of France, the Germans constructed additional Kabine antenna sites along the English Channel to increase their coverage and accuracy for targeting Britain. 7. **Late War Developments: X-ray System Accuracy Adjustments** - The X-ray system laid out three narrow cross-beams across the main beam before the target to determine the aircraft's ground speed and compute the bomb release point. This system required fine adjustments to account for the Earth not being a perfect sphere but slightly flattened near the poles, confirming it was designed to function on a globe. - ### **Summary:**![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_47-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 1.gif]] These events illustrate how the Kabine system was used and countered during the war, leading to shifts in tactics and technology on both the German and British sides. ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_47-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 2.gif]] # Flat Earth Fact #11 - German Bombing Beams Proved the Earth is Flat https://youtu.be/JUOwK-fjFr8?si=nl8AgNIrE9v-7cUa ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_41_55-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_10-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 3.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_47-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 3.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_44_35-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 2.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_52_8-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 2.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_19_2_56-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter 1.gif]] GLOBEBUSTERS LIVE | Episode 11.16 | Battle of the Beams 8/18/24 <iframe title="GLOBEBUSTERS LIVE | Episode 11.16 | Battle of the Beams 8/18/24" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5PRASzOg6zI?feature=oembed" height="113" width="200" allowfullscreen="" allow="fullscreen" style="aspect-ratio: 1.76991 / 1; width: 100%; height: 100%;"></iframe> Transcript ![[Attachments/globebusters transcript .txt]]  Notes: ---  Notes: ---  Notes: ---  Notes: Stollberg 34 mi Stollberg: Tan 0.3 degrees x 451 mi = 2.36 (2.4mi) Kleve Tan .0.4 x 334 mi = 1.75mi Theoretical beam divergence 420 mi's after you start diffracting @ 32 miles out, you'll end up with like 12 to 16 miles of diffriaction ---  Notes: Kleve Max benefit ~25,000ft (actually 19.7k ft) ![[Attachments/Pasted image 20240828180753.png]] ---   Notes: Hinsley, Francis Harry. _British Intelligence in the Second World War_. Vol. 3. Cambridge Universit y Press, 1979. ---  Notes: INAPPLICABLE Why withdraw? Because they're not dealing with BOUNCING. ---  Notes: --- ![[Attachments/ground-wave-skip-distance-skip-zone-l-330671525.jpg]] 0.1° minimum accuracy with a maximum beam width of 0.3° Measured accuracy confirmed by R. V. Jones 0.049° (Based on measured 500 yard equisignal width) Equisignal ~400-500 yards as directly measured by the British (Beam from Kleve) Maximum Beam Divergence Angle: 0.3° Maximum Beam Width: Kleve: tan (0.3°) * 334 miles = 1.75 miles from center to edge Stollberg: tan (0.3°) * 451 miles = 2.36 miles from center to edge Minimum Beam Targeting Accuracy Angle: 0.1 degrees Maximum Equisignal Width: Kleve: tan (0.1 deg) 334 miles = 0.58 miles Stollberg: tan (0.1 deg) 451 miles = 0.79 miles Math confirmed by R. V. Jones in the interview himself coming to the same amount of accuracy of half a mile. NOT attributing this to diffraction ![[Attachments/Image6-754119627.gif]] ![[Attachments/NTX2-20-4081040624.gif]] ![[Attachments/rolls-royce-factory-aero-engine-at-derby-england-circa-1933-RJRHJ2.jpg]] ![[Attachments/sd32.jpg]] ![[Attachments/skip.jpg]] ![[Attachments/cb225c33fab19b52954b0fcfcbd7ef1d.jpg]]  Notes: - Didn't believe it actually would Eckersley, TL. “Multiple Signals in Short-Wave Transmission.” _Proceedings of the Institute of Radio Engineers_ 18, no. 1 (1930): 106–22. [https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_audits](https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_audits) --- [https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_Audits](https://aethercosmology.com/t/the-battle-of-the-beams/228?u=space_Audits) 17:51 - Radar and Beeping - Equi-signal 20:42 - Equi-signal ---  Notes: ---  ---  ---   ---  ---  Notes: How to use: Dial in coordinates from the the graticule Tech specs: - Kn-2 Bredstedt (Stollberg Hill) Built 1939, operational 1940 - Kn-4 (Kleve) Placeholder - K-12 (Maulburg/Lörrach) Placeholder 29 m tall (≈95 ft) and 99 m wide (≈325 ft) rotated on a track with a diameter of 93 m (≈305 ft) Smaller antenna units that were part of the same Knickebein system were half as tall and wide Circular track enabled the radar system to be turned to the direction of the target so that a plane could fly in the equi-signal of the beam to targets (where a second beam would intersect) Signal: 30-33.3 MHz ---  Notes: 30-33.3 MHz - They would adjust the radar system to find the plane and bring them in - The plane does not fly around looking for where the beam might be - NOT an omnidirectional dispersion --- 35d tilt angle = 450mi before it even hits the ground again Diagrams ---  Notes: ---  Notes: - Beam != Omnidirectional => Beam ---  Notes: ---  Notes: ---  Notes: No sky waves for you lads --- [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_beam](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_beam) Notes: Fixed course only. No skipping here boys. --- [https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-modes-other-hell-brnhrdne.htm#top-of-page](https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-modes-other-hell-brnhrdne.htm#top-of-page) Mechanical printer that worked off fixed timing intervals Accurate within 250m ---  Notes: ---  ![[Attachments/2.jpg]] ![[Attachments/3.jpg]] ![[Attachments/4.jpg]] ![[Attachments/5.jpg]] ![[Attachments/6.jpg]] ![[Attachments/7.jpg]] ![[Attachments/8.jpg]] ![[Attachments/9.jpg]] ![[Attachments/10.jpg]] ![[Attachments/11.jpg]] ![[Attachments/12.jpg]] ![[Attachments/13.jpg]] ![[Attachments/14.jpg]] ![[Attachments/15.jpg]] ![[Attachments/16.jpg]] ![[Attachments/17.jpg]] ![[Attachments/18.jpg]] ![[Attachments/19.jpg]] ![[Attachments/20.jpg]] ![[Attachments/21.jpg]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_52_8-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_44_35-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_47-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_18_43_10-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_19_2_56-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter (1).gif]] ![[Attachments/Animotica_3_9_19_2_56-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif]] Notes: --- Notes: Plane flies between the pink tips --- Refraction: Two different refraction to be happening at just the right amount Always the same and never different --- @Young_Piezo Notes: > Technology utilizing triangulation of two VHF beams during World War II to bomb England from Germany. > > First beam from Stollberg Hill to Derby. > Second beam from Kleve to Derby. > > The flat earth argument is as follows: > > HF waves operate in the 3-30 MHz band. This band includes "skywaves" which can bounce off of the ionosphere. VHF operates within the 30-300 MHZ band. UHF operates in the 300-3000 MHz band. VHF and UHF penetrate the ionosphere. They are used in line-of-sight applications because of this. > > According to historical record, the Knickebein system ~={cyan}used line-of-sight propagation to target planes hundreds of kilometers away=~. Based on the math, with standard refraction included and accounted for, this should have been impossible on a globe. In fact, this is the very reason the British intelligence informed British scientists about their suspicion of the towers' existence and use, and the scientists rejected the possibility. > > Continuing... the Knickebein system was used to perform precision strikes on targeted factories at night, with accuracies wi---thin 100 yards. ~={cyan}The intercepted beams, after being discovered over and near Kleve, measured widths of 400-500 yards.=~ > > Insert standard explanation: the early towers operated between 31-33MHz frequency, which is BARELY above HF and in the low end of VHF. Under perfect conditions, these can still sometimes be reflected off the ionosphere. Therefore, this must have been what was at work in order for the planes flying at 19,000-25,000 feet of altitude to intercept the signal beams once they were over Kleve. (edited) > Problem with this explanation: ionospheric skywave propagation, also known as "bouncing" or "skipping," does not occur in straight lines and perfect angles. Instead, it will end up reflecting the received wave off at some level of cant or angle which will vary based on atmospheric conditions and other variables. This change in angle, regardless of how large or small, would have caused a shift in the point at which the two beams being used would have intersected, meaning it would have altered the point at which the planes would have dropped the bombs. An angle change of only 1 degree from the beams shot from either Stollberg Hill or Kleve would have shifted the beams by kilometers. > > Another problem with the idea that the Knickebein towers shot skywaves is the fact that when people actually do shoot skywaves, they aim the projecting equipment directly towards the sky. The Knickebein system shot the beams directly towards the target, as the planes actively flew inside the beams while flying from Germany to Derby. The only reason they would have eventually ended up hitting the ionosphere would be because of the natural trail-off towards the sky as the earth curved away from the beams underneath. But, looking at the pictures, you can look at the variable labeled "Drop" and see the altitude the beams would have been at when they reached Derby (or "Hidden" to see the altitude after accounting for refraction). When we look at these altitudes, we see the higher of the two as being about 100,000 feet, which is FAR short of the ionosphere, but still FAR above the altitude the planes flew at, which means they would not have received the signals. > > In conclusion, by the times the beams reached Derby, on a globe they would have been far too high above the planes to be received but far too low below the ionosphere in order to experience any sort of "skip" or "bounce," and even if someone just brute-force-logic assumed that a skywave or bounce DID happen, that would have caused an angle change which would have defeated the accuracy of the system that factually performed precision strikes on the Rolls Royce factory. Thus, the earth cannot be a globe approximately 3,959 miles in radius. Note: --- Two transceivers -> equi-siginal primary --- [https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-bernhard-Be9.htm](https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/hellschreiber-bernhard-Be9.htm) Overlap doesn't work Even @ 1km it wouldn't happen over 40k ft and 100k ft # Battle of the Beams - McKeegan ![[Attachments/Pasted image 20240823120143.png]] ![[Attachments/Pasted image 20240823120147.png]]