**April 18, 2023** #### #### Links [Transistor](https://share.transistor.fm/s/a61cdc89) [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/33ic9FNPKZ61fjyMzbPJNa) [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL2Vzc2VudGlhbC1keW5hbWljcy13aXRoLWRlcmVrLWh1ZHNvbg/episode/MjM2MGRjOTMtOTk4OC00MGE3LTljOTgtY2U0ZTQ4MjhkNWQ1?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwjompv1xrP-AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ) [Apple Podcasts](https://share.transistor.fm/s/a61cdc89) [Podcast Addict](https://podcastaddict.com/episode/https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.transistor.fm%2Fa61cdc89%2Fbbfcdf20.mp3&podcastId=3153944) #### Summary Marvin and Derek talk about how to help students and leaders answer their own questions, and own their quest. #### Concepts - [[Quest]] - [[Value Creation System]] - [[The Management Attention Deficit Problem]] #### Quotes >I need to give you the framework so we have a sense of where we're trying to go, and then give you the plan of how we're getting there...It's part of a big puzzle, and we've got to bring it piece by piece, and then the great ones, they keep sight of the puzzle piece and the puzzle. >Working with a group of people, if you can give them the framework early, not necessarily so they understand it, but they see where things start to piece together when you give them the pieces. >I don't think the goal is for me to write on the board "what's the best strategy?" and provide a lot of words, I think it's to help [them] begin to think about what is the best strategy, begin to hypothesize...what's my going in position, what levers do I think I should pull on in order to get the best strategy?...Once I can get them thinking about that... I need them to start with it's their question to answer, it's their thing to ponder, it's their journey, it's their quest. >The old days the instructors that we attracted were the instructors that were the knowledge creators and they were giving out knowledge. Well, we can get knowledge on our phones. So now we need instructors with different skill sets, with different passions, that are able to blend and combine, and have a foot in the academic world...and at the same time a foot in the practical world, working with the messiness of the work in business. #### See also - [[Episode 69 Marvin Washington - What Quest Are You Actually On]] - Dr. Marvin Washington is at [marvinwashington.com](https://marvinwashington.com/) - Derek Hudson is at [getunconstrained.com](https://getunconstrained.com/) %% Outtakes I need to give you the framework so we have a sense of where we're trying to go, and then give you the plan of how we're getting there. Let's just talk about this part today. Let's just talk about this part tomorrow. It's part of a big puzzle, and we've got to bring it piece by piece, and then the great ones, they keep sight of the puzzle piece, and the puzzle. I don't think the goal is for me to write on the board "what's the best strategy?" and provide a lot of words, I think it's to help [them] begin to think about what is the best strategy, begin to hypothesize...what's my going in position, what levers do I think I should pull on in order to get the best strategy? Once I can get my students to think that through, once I can get my leaders to think that through...once I can get them to think about "what might be the best lever in order to have my team perform at a higher degree?" Once I can get them thinking about that... I need them to start with it's their question to answer, it's their thing to ponder, it's their journey, it's their quest.